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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:39 pm    Post subject: Build log: 210 Mixed SPS Reef Reply with quote

Building hasn't started yet as I'm still in the planning stages but take a look at my plumbing plans.

The 15x high tank will act as the refugium and gravity drain to the prop/fuge in the 75 gallon sump. That will drain to the return. On the other side of the 75 will be the skimmer section which will also drain to the return.

I plan on using a 175 watt SE metal halide to light the fuge and prop/fuge tank.

Without getting too technical yet, do you think this plan in sound?



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it. Why so much light on a 15 gallon tank though?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, that much light on a fuge really isnt needed. i have seen 180g tanks with a fuge lit by a screw in PC incandescent replacement bulb.

looks good, besides the extra cost of the mh on the fuge, not to mention added electricty bill form the 175 w of mh...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason for the halide was because of the propagation tank. I want to be able to grow some SPS frags in there. The 175 was going to have dual purpose of lighting the fuge and prop tank.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've got it kicking around - might as well. You might wanna consider doing the 70W DE DIY fixture that kip did though. I know he gets great growth out of his little prop/fuge with that setup. That's assuming he hasn't completely ripped it out and replaced it 3 times since then Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks pretty sweet to me. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did talk to kip about that and he said the light spread on that 70 watter is not good enough to cover both sections, he actually gave me the idea of the 175.

I don't have it kicking around though. It would probably cost me $120 to get a single setup with reflector and bulb.

Keep an eye on the used area please. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yessir.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, BTW, after reading the irresponsibleness of keeping a mixed tank, maybe I should just make it FOWLR!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No kidding. How dare you try to do something unnatural like put soft corals in a box of water with hard corals. Keeping only 1 type of marine creature in a box of water in your living room is much more natural. :lol:
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you plan to go MH for the grow out and refugium and are willing to pay 120 for a USED setup, just hit up the sponsors. Ocean Encounter has a NEW 250W SE Setup for 160.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL, yeah, that's crazy!

I think hellolights had the 175 ballast and reflector for $72. The bulb should be around $50 or so. I was hoping I could get a used setup for well under $100.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i see thrlride. dual purpose is a good way to go:)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kip, what do you think of this plumbing idea? Any potential pitfalls?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A vent, what type of vent?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that were verticle no water would come out?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

now that's a good idea! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, what is the purpose purpose of it? Getting rid of the excess air?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My ass is just fine thank you!

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I've never seen these vent holes recommened before. So any drains will benefit from them?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When your drains enter your sump are they below the water or above?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that not noisy?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will try that with the next tank.

Is there anything else you'd do different with the plumbing?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never mentioned the flow from fuge 1 to fuge 2. I'm not sure to be honest. Maybe a couple hundred gph. I could t off one drain to supply this and the the other side of the t could go to the sump. I don't really want to dedicate one entire drain to the fuge as the flow will need to be less than 600.

Are you worried about a blockage in the fuge drain?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need some help guys. Smile

If you look at my plumbing diagram in the beginning you will see that fuge one will be higher than the sump and gravity dump in there.

To make this happen I really need that tank to be higher than the sump. My 75 is 21" tall and the 15x is supposed to be 18" high. To get a 1" PVC above the lip of the 75 I need to raise the 15 up nearly 7" to make the PVC angle downward toward the sump. That doesn't leave me a lot of room above the fuge 1. I guess that is okay considering it is just a chaeto fuge but cleaning it will be harder.

Any ideas? Do you think drilling the side of the 15x AND the side of the 75 would be better? The two holes can be attached by the PVC and drain that way.

If the answer to that is yes, then should I make sure the drilled hole is above the water line or would it be okay to drain fuge 1 to the sump below the water surface? Both tanks water height should be determined by where the hole is drilled and the baffle that seperates the fuge 2 from the return.

Sorry for the wordy explanation...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Ryan but I won't be much help here cause I am still trying to figure out ways you could cut your slab floor up with a quickie saw. Wink
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